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Ophelia regenerates; Typhoon Nesat heads towards China
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 11:39 AM GMT on September 28, 2011 +16
Ophelia is back as a tropical depression, thanks to a reduction in wind shear that allowed the storm to re-organize yesterday afternoon just east of the Lesser Antilles Islands. Martinique radar shows a large area of concentrated thunderstorms lies about 200 miles to the east of the northern Lesser Antilles, with good spiral banding and rotation. Recent satellite loops show that Ophelia's heavy thunderstorms are not increasing, and are limited in areal extent. The low-level center is partially exposed to view, thanks to strong wind shear. No hurricane hunter flights are scheduled for today.


Figure 1. Morning radar image from the Martinique radar shows the heavy rain showers from Ophelia, just east of the northern Lesser Antilles. Image credit: Meteo-France.

Dry air and moderate wind shear of 15 - 20 knots are slowing down Ophelia's intensification, and will continue to do so through Thursday. By Friday, wind shear is expected to fall to 10 - 15 knots, and most of the models give strong support to Ophelia intensifying into a hurricane by Saturday. With the models all agreeing on at track for Ophelia just east of Bermuda, Tropical Storm Warnings will probably be required for the island this weekend. Bermuda will be on the left (weak) side of Ophelia, so will miss the storm's strongest winds and heaviest rains. Ophelia may be a threat to Southeast Newfoundland early next week.

In the far eastern Atlantic, Tropical Storm Philippe is headed northwest into the middle of the North Atlantic, and is not expected to trouble and land areas. Wind shear is high enough over Philippe that the storm may dissipate by 4 - 5 days from now.

Typhoon Nesat headed towards China
Typhoon Nesat is headed west towards a landfall on China's Hainan Island on Thursday, and in northern Vietnam just south of Hanoi on Friday. Nesat is a large but disorganized Category 1 storm, and will not have time to strengthen significantly before landfall. However, Nesat is a very wet storm, capable of dropping over a foot of rain in 24 hours, according to latest satellite rainfall forecasts. Nesat roared across Luzon Island in the Philippines Monday as a powerful Category 3 typhoon with 120 mph winds, leaving 20 people dead and severe flooding problems.


Figure 2. Predicted rainfall amounts for the 24 hours ending at 06 UTC on Thursday September 29 show the Nesat is expected to dump over a foot of rain (red colors) along where its southern eyewall tracks. Image credit: NOAA/NESDIS.

Eastern Pacific's Hurricane Hilary steadily weakening
In the Eastern Pacific, Hurricane Hilary has weakened to a Category 1 hurricane with 90 mph winds. Continued weakening will occur over the next few days, and all of the models show Hilary dissipating before reaching the coast. Moisture from Hilary will not reach the U.S.

Jeff Masters
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51. TampaSpin 02:50 PM GMT on September 28, 2011    
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52. TampaSpin 02:53 PM GMT on September 28, 2011    
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53. RitaEvac 02:56 PM GMT on September 28, 2011    
Quoting bohonkweatherman:
The rain was strange, hard to explain with the wind. It was like it was pouring but it wasn't. Next thing you know fire trucks are driving by going to put out a fire caused by lightning. It is like it wants to rain but it can't. My sister lives about 8 miles north of me and she received 2 tenths, other family members received about the same amount i did. Central Texas is quickly becoming a desert though. I know the humidity around here has been less than it is in Vegas and Phoenix.


Sounds like a heavy mist
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54. TampaSpin 02:57 PM GMT on September 28, 2011    



If Philippe does not squeeze thru that little gap....somebody gonna be in trouble with a possible biggn!
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55. TampaSpin 02:59 PM GMT on September 28, 2011    
If that NOGAPS model would be correct.........reminds me of that "A" name storm........it happened nearly identically the same way.
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56. Patrap 02:59 PM GMT on September 28, 2011    

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57. redwagon 03:00 PM GMT on September 28, 2011    
Quoting bohonkweatherman:
Exactly. In some areas you could see the heavy rain falling but you could also see it wasn't making it to the ground, typical desert weather. West Texas has shifted eastward the past year that is for sure.
Well, it's supposed to happen again today with all that EPAC moisture streaming in. We'll have to get pics for people who have never seen rain fall yet not hit the ground.
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58. TampaSpin 03:02 PM GMT on September 28, 2011    


NO EXIT FOR Philippe as it would turn WSW!
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59. TampaSpin 03:03 PM GMT on September 28, 2011    
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60. Progster 03:05 PM GMT on September 28, 2011    
Given the extensive surface ridge forecast for the eastern CONUS next week,and the onset of the wet phase of the MJO over the Caribbean, late next week will be the time for Levi's call to pan out - or not. After day -9 the GFS ensemble is indieed indicating sustained troughing over the western Caribbean basin. Link: http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/cgi-bin/expertchart s?LANG=en&MENU=0000000000&CONT=mamk&MODELL=gefs&MO DELLTYP=2&BASE=-&VAR=pslv&HH=0&LOOP=1&ZOOM=0&ARCHI V=0&WMO=

(formatting of the site appears to be buggy this morning so I can't use the "links" tab.
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61. RitaEvac 03:06 PM GMT on September 28, 2011    
Quoting TampaSpin:


NO EXIT FOR Philippe as it would turn WSW!


Be a friggin miracle if it would go gulf bound...in October
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63. TampaSpin 03:27 PM GMT on September 28, 2011    
Quoting RitaEvac:


Be a friggin miracle if it would go gulf bound...in October



Maybe but another Trough one would think would be coming tho. Don't know tho!
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64. kwgirl 03:27 PM GMT on September 28, 2011    
Quoting redwagon:
Well, it's supposed to happen again today with all that EPAC moisture streaming in. We'll have to get pics for people who have never seen rain fall yet not hit the ground.
It was the strangest thing I saw when I was in Arizona one year. You could see the rain coming down and then just disappear as it is raining. The only thing that made it to the surface was hail.
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65. islander101010 03:34 PM GMT on September 28, 2011    
Quoting TampaSpin:



If Philippe does not squeeze thru that little gap....somebody gonna be in trouble with a possible biggn!
it would be a strange course no doubt
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66. Kearn 03:34 PM GMT on September 28, 2011    
is it just me or did ophelia just split down the middle?
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67. hurricane23 03:35 PM GMT on September 28, 2011    
Quoting reedzone:
Something interesting to note is that Ike was lurking around this time 3 years ago.. Phillipe is starting to remind me of Ike in terms of track. This means once it gets caught under that ridge, it may steer it WSW for a bit then west. It can still recurve but the models are starting to show a much more westward trend.


In terms of Phillipe its Highly unlikely with the present overall pattern over the southeast united states. 2 cold fronts progged by models forecasts to move through florida this weekend into early next week. Could see 1-2 sheared tc's in carib but serious conus threat doesn't appear likely in my opinion but as always things in the tropics can change quickly.
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68. SQUAWK 03:39 PM GMT on September 28, 2011    
Quoting hurricane23:


In terms of Phillipe its Higly unlikely with the present overall pattern over the southeast united states. 2 cold fronts progged by models forecasts to move through florida this weekend into early next week. Could see 1-2 sheared tc's in carib but serious conus threat doesn't appear likely in my opinion but as always things in the tropics can change quickly.


Hey "killer," good to see you.
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69. Patrap 03:40 PM GMT on September 28, 2011    
Ike hit Texas Sept 13th 2008
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70. SQUAWK 03:41 PM GMT on September 28, 2011    
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71. SQUAWK 03:42 PM GMT on September 28, 2011    
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72. Abacosurf 03:44 PM GMT on September 28, 2011    
Quoting RitaEvac:


Be a friggin miracle if it would go gulf bound...in October
Water is still plenty warm to support a storm. 84-85 degrees throughout the gulf still. All it would take is a different upper level pattern and it does not seem too far fetched.
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73. hophead 03:52 PM GMT on September 28, 2011    
What the possiility of Ophelia and Phillipe being wrapped up in a Fujiwara (sp?) effect spinning Phillipe to the south?
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74. KUEFC 03:52 PM GMT on September 28, 2011    
Why is it that people always go against the NHC and their forecasts? they are calling for Philippe to become a remenant low on sunday, but yet people here going totally against that and calling for it to go to the GOM or florida etc, strange.
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75. KUEFC 03:55 PM GMT on September 28, 2011    
Quoting hophead:
What the possiility of Ophelia and Phillipe being wrapped up in a Fujiwara (sp?) effect spinning Phillipe to the south?


No chance considering ophelia will be by bermuda come Saturday,
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76. Tempy 03:55 PM GMT on September 28, 2011    
Post #70

Thank you for posting that radar. I'm not sure what the one below it is, but it looks interesting.

TIA
77. klew136 03:57 PM GMT on September 28, 2011    
Quoting TampaSpin:
If that NOGAPS model would be correct.........reminds me of that "A" name storm........it happened nearly identically the same way.


SSSHHHH
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78. NEFLWATCHING 04:04 PM GMT on September 28, 2011    
my mother's name was Ophelia, and my brother-in-law is Phillip. I don't think either are a threat to us. Just a lot of hot air.
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79. Seastep 04:04 PM GMT on September 28, 2011    
Quoting KUEFC:
Why is it that people always go against the NHC and their forecasts? they are calling for Philippe to become a remenant low on sunday, but yet people here going totally against that and calling for it to go to the GOM or florida etc, strange.


Probably because NHC was totally off three days ago for both storms.



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80. scott39 04:11 PM GMT on September 28, 2011    
Post 79...Umm, Those are 2 different storms.
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82. Seastep 04:13 PM GMT on September 28, 2011    
Quoting scott39:
Post 79...Umm, Those are 2 different storms.


Yes, they are. Both the prediction from three days ago. And I can't remember the NHC being so off three days out. With Phillipe, it is not as bad, but the five day isn't even close and will not happen.
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83. SubtropicalHi 04:14 PM GMT on September 28, 2011    
Quoting bohonkweatherman:
Stormed here for several hours last night and I received half of .01, LOL. The dry lightning around here caused several fires, this is a first for this part of Texas but it was like very heavy virga, lots of lightning and thunder and winds well over 40 mph but the rains were evaporating before they hit the ground even though the radars showed it red over my house. Some scattered areas did get a little rain but for the most part it was just alot of barking and no bite. The humidity was 40 percent when it was raining before the drought my humidity would be 90 to 100 percent when it was raining.

To me last night's storm felt like a Midwest mesoscale. Very windy. As I tried to close my garden gate I felt like "Dorothy in Kansas". A dead tree was completely uprooted near my house. Heavy winds caused the rain to fall "sideways", so it felt heavy, but it wasn't (.1 in)

The irony San Antonio compared to Austin: Over the last several days SA's dewpoints were about 10 degrees higher than Austin's. Usually there is just a few degree's difference.
Monday evening the humidity was oppressive & dewpoints were in the 70's. I could barely drag my garden hose....
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84. goosegirl1 04:18 PM GMT on September 28, 2011    
Yesterday my duaghter called me to tell me there was a tornado warning in the town where I work. Of course, me being me, I rushed to a big window- I have long wanted to see a tornado. An employee of mine and I watched for a while, as there was high wind, torrential rain, and 1.5 inch hail putting on a show. As we watched, the wind began to change directions, and then to swirl around and pick up hail and water from the parking lot and spin it in circles and then the swirl took off towards the north and east. We joked about seeing our first tornado... until we saw a trained spotter had reported a funnel cloud in the area. I am wondering, do you see that kind of effect from a funnel cloud passing over? I am trying to convince myself I saw a baby tornado pass by 10 feet away, just for the cool value of it :)Tornadoes used to me rare in this area, but have had 5 or 6 warned cells this year. Any info is appreciated.
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85. GainesvilleGator 04:30 PM GMT on September 28, 2011    
Quoting post #74 "Why is it that people always go against the NHC and their forecasts? they are calling for Philippe to become a remenant low on sunday, but yet people here going totally against that and calling for it to go to the GOM or florida etc, strange."

Was Ophelia not a Remnant Low? We could be looking at a similar scenario where Philipe weakens and then regenerates.
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86. Levi32 04:33 PM GMT on September 28, 2011    
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87. HuracanTaino 04:36 PM GMT on September 28, 2011    
Quoting Neapolitan:
ATCF says Ophelia is once again a TS:

AL, 16, 2011092812, , BEST, 0, 184N, 599W, 40, 1001, TS, 34, NEQ, 75, 75, 0, 0, 1011, 240, 75, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, OPHELIA, M,
0Yes back to a typical , 2011 storm, wit expose center, winds very far away towards the east of the Storm and lack of convection in the western side. Miss how beautiful she looks when was only a remnants...
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88. SubtropicalHi 04:57 PM GMT on September 28, 2011    
Quoting goosegirl1:
Yesterday my duaghter called me to tell me there was a tornado warning in the town where I work. Of course, me being me, I rushed to a big window- I have long wanted to see a tornado. An employee of mine and I watched for a while, as there was high wind, torrential rain, and 1.5 inch hail putting on a show. As we watched, the wind began to change directions, and then to swirl around and pick up hail and water from the parking lot and spin it in circles and then the swirl took off towards the north and east. We joked about seeing our first tornado... until we saw a trained spotter had reported a funnel cloud in the area. I am wondering, do you see that kind of effect from a funnel cloud passing over? I am trying to convince myself I saw a baby tornado pass by 10 feet away, just for the cool value of it :)Tornadoes used to me rare in this area, but have had 5 or 6 warned cells this year. Any info is appreciated.

I've never seen a tornado, but in Wisconsin on a muggy spring afternoon, I was searching the sky because it felt like it was going to rain. The horizon was hazy and had a greenish, brownish look. There was some wind, (guessing 10-20 mph) and it seemed to be blowing in some kind of "dirt"...that appeared to be asphalt.

Then came fiberglass insulation.
So I knew......

I watched the sky, anticipating, but it eventually cleared. Not a drop of rain or anything.

The tornado touched down 15 miles from my home. This was a major tornado. It varied from f3-f5 along it's course.
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89. goosegirl1 05:04 PM GMT on September 28, 2011    
SubtropicalHi, that's cool but I feel bad for the owner of the fiberglass :( I'm not sure what I saw, but it was so fascinating that I had an ipod in my pocket but forgot to shoot a video...
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90. SPLbeater 05:35 PM GMT on September 28, 2011    
TS Ophelia looks like TS Lee
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91. 7544 05:36 PM GMT on September 28, 2011    
hi all looks like our p strom will keep us all guessing for a few days this one is interesting to watch this week
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92. Mucinex 05:42 PM GMT on September 28, 2011    
Quoting TampaSpin:
If that NOGAPS model would be correct.........reminds me of that "A" name storm........it happened nearly identically the same way.

That's what I was thinking. Hopefully not.

Love your new avatar. It's very spinny.
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93. SubtropicalHi 05:53 PM GMT on September 28, 2011    
Quoting goosegirl1:
SubtropicalHi, that's cool but I feel bad for the owner of the fiberglass :( I'm not sure what I saw, but it was so fascinating that I had an ipod in my pocket but forgot to shoot a video...


Homes were damaged. Luckily it was down to F3 when it hit a suburban area. This was in 1974

An F5 hit Central Texas near Austin in 1997 (Jerrell) Some of our Texas members probably have memories of that.

The Jerrell tornado was a classic F5.
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94. islander101010 05:59 PM GMT on September 28, 2011    
Quoting RitaEvac:


Be a friggin miracle if it would go gulf bound...in October
anyone remember kyle if i remember right it was a late season system as it moved w accross the atlantic
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95. shellyweathers 06:02 PM GMT on September 28, 2011    
hmmm...isn't it strange how the 5 day forecast for Phillipe has it turning back more west? Should Florida watch this one?
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96. aspectre 06:04 PM GMT on September 28, 2011    
hophead "What's the possibility of Ophelia and Phillipe being wrapped up in a Fujiwhara effect spinning Phillipe to the south?"

No chance whatsoever. In the NorthernHemisphere, a Fujiwhara's mutual spin is counter-clockwise.
So IF such an interaction were to occur, Phillipe would be spun northward.
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97. GTcooliebai 06:09 PM GMT on September 28, 2011    
I know it's really far out, but not a good sign, notice the trough coming down the MS River Valley and the storm in the SW Caribbean is moving NW.

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98. aspectre 06:10 PM GMT on September 28, 2011    
75 KUEFC "No chance considering Ophelia will be by Bermuda come Saturday"

IF you have faith in the models. According to its last 3 ATCF center positions, Ophelia's been travelling at 1.6mph(2.6kph); ie it's been going nowhere very slowly.
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99. gbreezegirl 06:15 PM GMT on September 28, 2011    
I would swear we were in a tropical storm right now has been nonstop rain here since 8:00 a.m. Ligtening show as well.
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100. Patrap 06:16 PM GMT on September 28, 2011    



MESOSCALE DISCUSSION 2211
NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
1210 PM CDT WED SEP 28 2011




AREAS AFFECTED...SERN TX/SRN LA/SRN MS

CONCERNING...SEVERE POTENTIAL...WATCH POSSIBLE

VALID 281710Z - 281915Z

SEVERE THREAT IS EXPECTED TO SLOWLY INCREASE THIS AFTERNOON AS
STORMS DEVELOP/INTENSIFY WITH TIME. EVENTUAL WW ISSUANCE IS
POSSIBLE.

LATEST VISIBLE SATELLITE AND RADAR LOOPS SHOW CONVECTION SLOWLY
DEVELOPING ACROSS THE DISCUSSION AREA...BOTH INVOF A SEA BREEZE
BOUNDARY NEAR THE SERN TX/SRN LA COAST AND ALSO FARTHER N INTO SRN
MS NEAR THE SYNOPTIC-SCALE FRONT. THE CONVECTION IS INITIATING
WITHIN A THERMODYNAMIC ENVIRONMENT FEATURING VERY STEEP LAPSE RATES
THROUGH A DEEP LAYER...AND A VERY MOIST BOUNDARY LAYER. THIS
COMBINED WITH DIURNAL HEATING IS YIELDING MIXED-LAYER CAPE VALUES
NOW AS HIGH AS 3500 J/KG FROM SERN TX EWD ACROSS SRN LA.

AS HEATING/DESTABILIZATION CONTINUES...AND AS A COMPACT UPPER
LOW/VORT MAX SHIFTS SEWD OUT OF OK INTO THE ARKLATEX
REGION...LARGE-SCALE ASCENT SHOULD INCREASE ACROSS THE DISCUSSION
AREA...SUPPORTING AN INCREASE IN BOTH STORM COVERAGE AND INTENSITY.
WHILE PROFILER/VWP DATA AND MORNING RAOBS REVEAL MODEST FLOW ALOFT
-- AND THUS SHEAR VALUES GENERALLY UNSUPPORTIVE OF
SUPERCELLS...DEGREE OF INSTABILITY APPEARS SUFFICIENT TO OVERCOME
THIS LIMITATION AND YIELD AN INCREASING POTENTIAL FOR LARGE HAIL AND
LOCALLY DAMAGING WINDS THROUGH THE AFTERNOON. WHILE WW IS NOT
IMMINENT...INCREASING POTENTIAL MAY EVENTUALLY WARRANT WATCH
ISSUANCE.

..GOSS.. 09/28/2011


ATTN...WFO...MOB...JAN...LIX...LCH...SHV...HGX...

LAT...LON 29149485 29219573 29819596 30829504 31449374 31599184
31749049 31288888 30638849 29618947 29399067 29639252
29749414 29149485

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101. aspectre 06:21 PM GMT on September 28, 2011    
While waiting for the 6pmATCF... Since the previous mapping for 27Sept_6pmGMT :
17.4n59.9w, 17.5n60.3w, 18.3n59.5w, 18.4n59.7w have been re-evaluated&altered for TS.Ophelia's_28Sept_12pmGMT_ATCF
17.6n59.2w, 17.9n59.7w, 18.2n59.6w, 18.3n59.7w, 18.4n59.8w are now the most recent positions

Starting with its last unrevised position on 27Sept_6pmGMT and ending 28Sept_12pmGMT

The 5 line-segments represent TropicalStormOphelia's path.
The AXA dot is there to produce a map-scale showing the northern LesserAntilles as reference points.

Using straightline projection of the travel-speed&heading derived from the
ATCF coordinates spanning the 6hours between 6amGMT then 12pmGMT :
TS.Ophelia's travel-speed was 1.6mph(2.6k/h) on a heading of 316.3degrees(NW)
TS.Ophelia was headed toward passage over SunsetBeach,NorthCarolina in ~5hours less than "40days and 40nights" from now (-; not shown ;-)

Copy&paste 17.3n59.5w-17.6n59.2w, 17.6n59.2w-17.9n59.7w, 17.9n59.7w-18.2n59.6w, 18.2n59.6w-18.3n59.7w, 18.3n59.7w-18.4n59.8w, 60j, 18.3n59.7w-33.861n78.52w into the GreatCircleMapper to see the straightline projection and other info.
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